The Electric Vehicle Charging Problem
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References
[1] www.ucsusa.org/resources/surveying-consumers-electric-vehicles
[2] www.castrol.com/content/dam/castrol/master-site/en/global/home/technology-and-innovation/electric-vehicle-adoption/accelerating_the_evolution_study.pdf
[3] www.chevrolet.com/electric/bolt-ev; www.tesla.com/model3/design#overview; www.nissanusa.com/shopping-tools/build-price/cars/nissan-leaf/2021/40-kwh/29125:BABYp:AqoD5iM/exterior; afdc.energy.gov/data/10567
[4] www.tesla.com/model3/design#overview; www.chevrolet.com/electric/bolt-ev;
[5] teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/updated-model-3-charging-profiles-durations.145054/; www.chevrolet.com/electric/bolt-ev; www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/electric-cars/leaf/features/range-charging-battery.html
[6] neo.ubs.com/shared/d1N4RjMdUf/; insideevs.com/news/444567/electrify-america-new-lower-rates/
[7] neo.ubs.com/shared/d1N4RjMdUf/
[8] www.wsj.com/articles/tesla-tsla-4q-earnings-report-2020-11611708257
[9] www.plugshare.com/location/284932
[10] cleantechnica.com/2019/02/16/standardization-of-ev-charging-in-the-eu/
[11] www.iea.org/reports/global-ev-outlook-2020
[12] www.iea.org/reports/global-ev-outlook-2020
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Scott Whitley
Acum 19 minute
Can you talk about the world lithium problem? As electric vehicles come more popular lithium will become even more scarce.
daltonx
Acum 41 minut
Biggest crock of shit video I have ever seen... The authors are obviously on the Kick Brother's payroll, and then some ! 🤣🤣🤣
Randy Baumery
Acum 52 minute
Electric Vehicle = coal powered car
Rob Stamp
Acum 2 ore
The flaw in this theory that people want a vehicle that will carge in 31 minutes. Nonsense, until you can charge a car as fast as you can fill a tank wih gas the public will never go for it.
Red Eyes at Night
Acum 2 ore
Chevy BOLT? Tesla Truck both should have been included, for that I give your views a thumbs DOWN
Ryan Butterly
Acum 2 ore
Hey someone wants to give me a free Tesla car and pay for the main something else I’ll take it.
Dwight Looi
Acum 3 ore
UTTER RUBBISH. What the industry needs is very high capacity batteries that are not fully utilized. If you have a 200kWh battery but treat it as a 100kWh battery, you can both charge it very fast and have it last a very long time. Battery cost and battery bulk is everything. Once you have that, everything else resolves itself. -- BTW, 31 minutes is still unworkable unless you have a charger on every parking space everywhere. A better solution is a gas turbine APU. It'll be the size of a muffler, puts out about 30kW and runs on gasoline. There is no coolant system, no radiator, no chains, no cams, no belts, nothing. It either runs at optimum speed or not at all. It wouldn't be that efficient but you can fill up its tank in 2 minutes and if you only use it on long trips and in emergencies who cares if it only gets 20 mpg? There'll be a switch on the dash where you can turn it on. When you do it'll replenish the charge on the battery if it is below 30% and shut off automatically at 70% (or whatever you want it to shut off at).
john marks
Acum 3 ore
You are missing a very important point. We park our cars overnight in public parking spaces here. You would need to install one charger in every space to make them really viable. The cost would be prohibitive to say the least. Leaving your car uncharged overnight in the NE would never fly with anyone using public parking.
N7eptune
Acum 3 ore
Tipping point is not Down Under yet. The starting price for an EV is $US34,000 or if you want the popular brand it is $US52,000 whereas a popular small ICE sedan starts at just over $US21,000. In the small ICE sedan on today's average fuel price for 94 Octane Ethanol it would cost just over $US10 to travel 100 miles. To charge your EV and pay the extra road tax in some Australian states your EV will cost almost $US9 for 100 miles.
Smiley P
Acum 3 ore
Wow it's almost like competition for profit isn't actually that useful and screws over customers
Smiley P
Acum 3 ore
10:25 so what's the problem then? Doesn't Elon have over 120b$ what's 8b if you have close to 150b?
StamfordBridge
Acum 3 ore
11:02. “It is the classic chicken-and-the-egg problem.” Not quite the right expression here, IMO. It is the classic Catch-22 problem.
LITEWRENCH
Acum 3 ore
What about crime at the charging stations. It will be a perfect place where someone will be stuck there for 30 minutes and also fighting over the last station. This will help increase gun sales because you would be an idiot to not have a gun with you when you’ve been on the road for 2 hours and a 30 minute nap sounding pretty good while recharging. You wake up and see a thief pointing 45 at your face. I will stick with petro and hope I die before the dumbocraps force an EV on me.
Tinker Taylor
Acum 3 ore
Well done, a very interesting and informative video. As a non-electric car owner, I wasn't aware of this issue.
Pim Commandeur
Acum 4 ore
When you recognise the landscape at 0:39 because you where there (Snæfellsnesvegur, Iceland)
Alex Air
Acum 4 ore
So Tesla charger is like the Apple lightning port
Edward motocyclism
Acum 4 ore
If they keep screwing the fuel up the public will have no choice
Quincy Holloway
Acum 4 ore
If you are watching this video, your car is probably parked and therefrore could be charging. Or you can watch this video while charging. If you fill up your gas tank everytime you go to the gas station, then EV's might not be for you, but if you can get through your daily commute in under 200 miles per day. You should already be driving electric. Cuz, saving money..
Free Willy
Acum 5 ore
New Zealand has no insentives at all but we do have great charging network that the power companies have put in. Shame the government here are about the tax us per KM driven the same as diesels are taxed here and at the same cost = killing EV take up
Ectoplasmic Entity
Acum 6 ore
There's a gas station and tesla charging station near me. I usually fill up 2 times a month at the gas station early in the morning before work. When i drive by the Tesla station seeing people waiting in their EV to recharge and other tesla's waiting for a spot it just makes me laugh.
NEIL FOX
Acum 6 ore
The charging problem is easily solved. Just implement rapid battery swaps. It's already a thing and you can change batteries faster than filling up, plus EV's have almost no maintenance costs.
FIGHTTHECABLE
Acum 6 ore
EVs are the best. I've driven 2 and own 1. I will never go back to ICE. Would you still buy a Nokia? No. And this video has so much false / missleading information. Camparing Hybrids and calling them.electric cars. Wendover has failed to see that charging at home, does not require you to charge as often. And that's why it is OKAY to have a charger 31 minutes away. I only charge 4.5% DC.
geckoblaze48
Acum 6 ore
Talk about stupid.
MrMusic1950
Acum 6 ore
Many people "try" electric cars (microwave ovens), but always, and very soon go back to a "real car", yup, like the cordless diy drill, always need the 4 hour charge in town. Never will leccy cars be usable for this reason. Dont waste your time with microwave ovens.
David Szakacs
Acum 7 ore
Only $7.8 billion? Well, instead of sending up rockets, Musk could build them instead.
Rick Shaw
Acum 7 ore
Am I paying more for power during "peak time", so that some legislators investment in Tesla can grow?
Philip Brucker
Acum 7 ore
Chargers need to be in at least 1 in 4 gas stations or at least in somewhere as convenient before I'll consider. Older EVs need to be charged more often than new ones and I'll never be able to afford a new EV.
218philip
Acum 7 ore
If you add up the subsidy being paid by (other) people, impracticality in half(?) the nation, the energy inefficiently that is insurmountable if the entire energy cycle is considered, there are quantum leaps in technology needed.
allgoo 19
Acum 7 ore
The question comes down to this, "Will the people buy their second electric car?"
allgoo 19
Acum 4 ore
@Quincy Holloway : "I'm on my 4th, haven't paid for a tank of gas since 2012." == One every two years? What were the reason for buying so many electric cars?
Quincy Holloway
Acum 4 ore
I'm on my 4th, haven't paid for a tank of gas since 2012.
modianoification
Acum 7 ore
Europe has a plan but doesn't have Tesla
Angel González
Acum 8 ore
4:45: Man, technically Thomas Edison did "battled it out" with George Westinghouse, because they controlled General Electric and Westinghouse Electric Co, but in reality the father of the Alternating Current (AC) was Nikola Tesla, who is arguably the father of the modern electrical grid. Other than that, is a great video!!
Roman Numeral
Acum 8 ore
"Charging station distribution" is what we need to monitor. If that even becomes 50/50 with gas stations, it's going to be a scary time. Many many many gas stations are going to have to shutdown due to lack of demand. There are going to be old-schoolers who will want to keep a gas car for hobby purposes, but it's going to be tough to find gas.
Roman Numeral
Acum 4 ore
@Iv zh That would be great for the auto industry if they can reuse old infrastructure. Gotta keep an eye on that as well.
Iv zh
Acum 7 ore
Nah homie, Porsche and Siemens Energy set to produce a hydrogen based synthetic fuel by 2022,, which would be usable with all of the current manufacturing, storage and distribution infrastructure.
Steve Prestek
Acum 8 ore
What hadn't been addressed is the size of the electric fleet. If there were, say ten percent electrics, the power grid could not handle the charging load to service all of those electrics. This video really glosses over the real problems with EVs. As a total transportation solution, from creation on the factory floor to end-of-life - taking in consideration ALL aspects - they are a very poor.
Absurd 72
Acum 9 ore
Great video. Keep creating
Mark Mcelheney
Acum 10 ore
I Wouldn't Have One, On A Bet!
David McNamara
Acum 10 ore
The nail was hit head on.
Hari Sadu
Acum 11 ore
Frankly in urban India at least except for NCR, most people don't seem to drive very frequently outside of their city. Like people in Kolkata for instance don't drive outside of it that much. If most of your driving is restricted to an urban area and if you can charge at home, your problem is mostly solved and then essentially a matter of cost.
Jack García
Acum 11 ore
Do we have coordinated government plans? Yeah, well, but you know... Also, cost of EVs is definitely in the way, maybe not in the US, Norway, Switzerland and the like, but for me in Spain, spending 30K in a car is no joke.
Dave Block
Acum 11 ore
Once synthetic fuels come online the EV 'craze' will pass. Electricity does not come from Fairy Dust and the strip mining needed to produce the batteries will become unacceptable. EVs are not 'clean' and will be obsolete soon enough. A classic NIMBY distribution of the pollution.
kk123 ggogle
Acum 11 ore
Good video but it completely ignores the KW demand issue. You have to have the power available in the quantity needed (instantaneous KW) in order to power all these chargers. Renewables (solar and wind) being an intermittent supplier (low cap factor) can't supply the KW 'spikes' caused when mass amounts of EV's are plugged in. And you can't use battery storage for this scale/rate of energy. For that you need local gas 'peakers' to give instant power when needed. There are also designs for modular nuclear 'peakers' that could do this also. I also think the charging time for EV's needs to be about the same time it takes to fill a tank of gas before there is mass acceptance(which means even more KW required to charge). Currently the only way to do this is with capacitor based batteries which aren't economical yet.
Ricky Got
Acum 11 ore
Luckily Tesla is a trillion dollar company
Wayne Wagner
Acum 11 ore
This is a classic liberal out look on solving the problem. Your asking the government to pick the winner when its not there business.
Jason Beetleborn
Acum 12 ore
this is not a problem. Industries and supply lines have to develop. but at this point an electric vehicle is an option, and that is a huge option. Gas is supreme though, and getting rid of gas is a threat.
don christie
Acum 13 ore
Add the data of having battery changing stations at gas stations and stand alone’s.
Fred Gervin M.P.
Acum 13 ore
I'm getting a Big Block on Mars.
Pink Flamingo
Acum 13 ore
Too bad we couldn't remain energy independent while we work this out... $5/gallon gas isn't going to enable regular people to buy new cars or make charging stations magically appear.
O R
Acum 14 ore
Can someone tell me how we're supposed to replace all ICE-powered vehicles with EVs? Where are we going to get the resources to produce the billions of huge batteries needed? And how are the dirt-poor slave labor mining those minerals supposed to get paid if the prices are to be dropped dramatically? Some food for thought for the "zero"-emission morons out there.
Tim Hargan
Acum 18 minute
And they still haven’t solved the problem of how to recycle the batteries
Korwynias Wolfdrake
Acum 14 ore
The Volt is a hybrid EV, its EV range is 30-50 miles.
Goby G-Major
Acum 15 ore
I thought Edison battled Tesla...or is that fictional...like in Murdoch mysteries?
Roger Lewis
Acum 15 ore
It appears that the prices you gave for electric cars and their batteries includes the huge current and proposed taxpayer subsidies, so the vehicles are nowhere close to the tipping point for popular adoption. Those subsidies are not sustainable over the long term. The other problem with batteries is the diminishing charge and discharge return over time and use, along with the huge cost to the environment in mining the resources required. There is also a huge issue with the safe disposal of spent batteries because these batteries cannot be recycled. Why should taxpayers finance charging stations and not petrol stations. This technology must be able to stand on it's own or fail, or newer and different technologies that may well be sustainable and successful at low cost will be overlooked because it is easier and more profitable for the wealthy to continue to chase the subsidies.
Eduard Pertíñez
Acum 15 ore
It would be as easy as writting a law that orders all service stations close to an "autoban" to have a fast charger in the next 12 months if they want to maintain their privilege to be close to the freeway.
Solaroid444
Acum 3 ore
Yeah? And when most of them go out of business cause they cannot afford it we are out of service stations. Forcing somebody else to do the shit you want under the thread of violence is never a good solution.
DirtySaltyBug
Acum 16 ore
In a very crowded city like Hong Kong, there cannot possibly be enough charging stations to satisfy demand. It's not unusual to see Tesla vehicles queuing for chargers. Also, if you live in a flat, you are basically sh*t out of luck.
Edward Heath
Acum 16 ore
Several years ago I completely converted a 2011 Chevrolet Cruze ECO into a 100% BEV (Battery Electric Vehicle) and I put some other electronics and technologies in it so that it will travel over 1200 miles on a single charge! How about somebody from the United States that is building / mass producing their own electric vehicle call me at my company that is “New Ideas and Innovations, LLC“ in Madison, Connecticut so we can get this ultra long range travel technology into your vehicle so it will be the best and longest traveling EV on the market! Seriously; Edward H. Innovator of the EEV-3 / “The Watt“ 203-500-8777
Michael Villis
Acum 17 ore
Hmmmm... Maybe if the federal government had a week focusing on infrastructure projects like the issues mentioned in this video... They could call it... "Infrastructure week"... Oh wait...
Markus Strangl
Acum 17 ore
The main EV charging problem is a lack of education in the general population. So many people think that EVs work like combustion cars, in that you drive to a DC charger once a week, just as you do with a gas station right now. Instead, basically everyone who owns a house with their own garage can install a home charger and start every day with a full battery. Very few people need to drive more than 250 miles every day.
Index
Acum 18 ore
Screw less charge and more stops means more lost time. Who wants to keep stopping to loiter around open air and unsecured charge points. Tipping point to adoption into electric is buy converting existing ICE fuelling infrastructure by adding Hydrogen that way greater take up of EV’s which generate their own electricity and mimic ICE for fill and go and range. Power point car is yesterday’s news.
Jestami
Acum 19 ore
*outlaaat*
Blacksheep66
Acum 19 ore
I live on a boat @ 25⁰ latitude. We have solar panels, generator, diesel aux power etc and usually plugged in at the dock. Its impossible to run an air conditioner 24-7 for 9 months out of the year soley off of solar panels and a wind turbine lmao. I swear most of these "renewable energy" bots must have skipped out of their math classes their entire lives. And most have zero experience or knowledge with the actual nuts and bolts of the subject and also have no idea of the physical "footprint" needed for the solar panels and wind turbines to provide for each and every one of us.
Blacksheep66
Acum 18 ore
@sehhi vooty Sorry, I'm not sure I understand your reply.
sehhi vooty
Acum 18 ore
Drives off same time it takes to get gas.
Chris Ellis
Acum 19 ore
If the globalists want to us to use EVs, then don’t, f*** ‘em 🧐😉😡✅
sehhi vooty
Acum 18 ore
Why can't they put alternaters so we don't need to recharge them makes more sense
Darris Hawks
Acum 20 ore
Salina, Kansas is pronounced "Sa ly nuh" not "Sa lee nuh" Kansas people know. Nobody can say our town names properly lol Olathe, Kansas is "Olaytha" Osawatomie is "ah suh wah tuh mee"
Mark Brand
Acum 20 ore
A point everyone misses here is that you don’t actually need to charge all the way up. The furthest away I drive from home with any regularity is 50 miles to my brothers house. A supercharger can add 50 miles in less than 5 minutes. Boom I’m home and the rest of the charging happens overnight. It would be just a handful of times a year I would actually need to fill up on a road trip.
Sangria Biscus
Acum 20 ore
How many Texans used their EVs in keeping warm during the snow storm? That electric bill would be expensive.
steveMCHS
Acum 20 ore
You forgot they are also so ugly and boring both inside and out
Formata Gfys
Acum 21 oră
Instead of tax breaks they should charge car tax 1$ for each co2 they produce
everyday tenor
Acum 21 oră
You missed one big point: once Evs become ubiquitous, govts will be losing their tax revenues from gas and diesel fuel taxes. Obviously, they will then tax Evs, eliminating all savings of Evs, and you will still still be left with all the hassles of charging wait times and battery replacement costs No thanks.
Solaroid444
Acum 3 ore
Or they can jack up all other taxes, impose vat, etc. in order to subsidize the new tesla some nimbie moron bought on credit
everyday tenor
Acum 8 ore
@John Cahill And again, you missed the one big point: road taxes, coming soon to a municipality near you. As for charging times, my ICE car fillls up in a few minutes. I see Tesla owners at charging stations near waiting for their cars to charge for what seems like a long time. Battery life.....have you gotten 500,000 out of yours yet? I hear stories of battery degradation with Teslas. I had a a chance to buy an EV last time I needed a car.....maybe I will change my mind in the future.....but right now, no.
John Cahill
Acum 10 ore
@everyday tenor Speaking for Tesla only, there is no charging wait time issue and there is no reason to expect battery replacement costs (fleets have exceeded 500,000 miles on original battery).
Khoa Tran
Acum 21 oră
The Chevy Volt hasn't been in production since 2019 and wasn't a pure EV, it was a hybrid. Do you mean the BOLT?
Jason Humbert
Acum 22 ore
I will happily keep my V8 for quite awhile. I try not to buy first gen anything and thats what i see this electric vehicle thing at the moment. As an Aussie there is a lot that needs to happen before I conrtemplate buying a Hybrid, let alone full electric.
Rushi
Acum 22 ore
Did he just say that ac was not invented by Nichola Tesla 🙄
xr6lad
Acum 22 ore
Sorry disagree. Totally disagree. Electric vehicles WILL NOT take off until you can totally charge in the same time as a petrol/gas car. End of story. As population increases, most parts of the world DONT have driveway’s where they can charge over night. Apartments, small homes, European cities with on street parking. And until people like you wake up, it’s not going to happen. Nor will it happen in countries like Australia or Africa where driving 400+ klms in a day is nothing out of the ordinary.
TheKingmaji1
Acum 22 ore
Overall, this was a great evaluation of the market EV challenges. However, I do believe you miss some of the other issues that surrounds this entire segment. That being the shift in public demand for SUV and trucks. This is a major influencer on the US market. Plus the usage of trucks as a tow vehicle or as a work vehicle in the field only exacerbates the current problems that impact the public demand for EV products. The ability to charge faster is a major part of the problem. While the practical storage in these vehicles is not able to keep these major segments from even considering a transition. It would be more practical to allow for the quick change of batteries in a drive-through. That way you could bridge the gap and be able to try and keep pace with conventional vehicles.
fireworks2fireplac3s
Acum 23 ore
Who tf in their right mind tries to drive from Perth to Sydney?! Absolute mad dog
SUPE SUPE
Acum 23 ore
The main issue for us in Australia with EV's is range. We need a vehicle that has minimum range of 800 kilometres without filling up. Some distance requirements need 1000 to 2000 kilometres. And yes if it cant charge quicker than 15 minutes forget it.
Jonathan Tyree
Acum 23 ore
Until an electric car can fill up faster than I'm in and out of the gas station I'll always pass
Tiny Dog
Acum 23 ore
Why can't they put alternaters so we don't need to recharge them makes more sense
Bill Salyer
Acum 23 ore
Im a investor. I will give this ideal away. The car pulls in station. Drops used battery and then picks up fully charged battery. Take it. I can solve any problem but I'm am poor. Drives off same time it takes to get gas.
Mark Brand
Acum 21 oră
Tesla did this over 5 years ago and Nio does it today in China
Bill Salyer
Acum 23 ore
Im disabled and only get 860$ a month. Sad story.
Hobo Ryan
Acum 23 ore
Oil companies refuse to support EVs, until that is solved, the USA will never fully support them.
MDF 1
Acum o Zi
The biggest problem by far is that you rock up to your nearest fast charger and find out you are third in the queue and everyone needs a 30 min charge. So you drive to the next one and find the chargers blocked for some reason. You eventually find a charger to get onto and ooooops it has been vandalised as it is in a car park with no security. When did you last see a petrol station without an attendant of one kind or another. The charger points are cost prohibitive to install, but EV sales are on the increase.....so forget how long it will take to charge, think more of how long it will take to find a charger not being used to plug into.
Irfan Syah
Acum o Zi
Now Hyundai Ioniq 5 can have a range up to 100km by only 5 minutes of charging. The fast charginng technology is also getting better by time.
david rab
Acum o Zi
The stupendous wind markedly thank because celery arthroscopically trade except a testy mile. hateful, acceptable wasp
twkeyes1
Acum o Zi
Good video, but I think you missed an obstacle in crossing the tipping point. What happens to the price of electricity if we convert the majority of cars to electric, especially given the lack of competition in getting electricity delivered to the home. I love the idea of low maintenance cars, but would not want to rely on Con Edison to power my vehicle.
TotallyNotAnEel _
Acum o Zi
Still rather buy a newer used Internal combustion than an New EV
dsm reloader
Acum o Zi
Ha HA HA HA HA!! And you want to add trucks??? Lets see, I could drive my semi for 30 miles then charge for an hour or two then do it all over again.. Yep, right around the corner..
Mark Brand
Acum 21 oră
The charge rate is limited in terms of battery %, not absolute energy. So a semi would charge just as fast.
HarshColby
Acum o Zi
@10:25: Tesla raised $5B without a hiccough in the stock price. What makes you think they won't install charging stations as fast as needed? Why would any Tesla owner bother to stop at a non-tesla station and waste an hour charging? Teslas route through Superchargers as needed. And almost all charging is done at home, so the network is only for long range driving. The tipping point is already here.
moreforme74
Acum o Zi
Charging stations isn't the problem. This video is a waste of time. No one wants to sit around for more than 5 minutes at the pump.
moreforme74
Acum o Zi
Oh please, let me know when I can drive from Boston to Atlanta with my subwoofers bumping in only 16 hours. I'm not sitting around in the wrong neighborhood for 30 minutes.
Eric R
Acum o Zi
There is no need for the average American to live 4 minutes away from a super charging station. That’s overkill. I think 15 minutes is the magic number.
Mark Brand
Acum 21 oră
Exactly. Home charging means access doesn’t need to be that good
Eric R
Acum o Zi
Your range for the Tesla Model 3 is way low. My 2019 Tesla Model 3 fully charged has a range of 315 miles on a full charge. Of course, range is variable based on your speed. If I drive above 70 mph, my range declines in proportion to how much over 70 mph I’m driving. I have the Model 3 Performance model with Dual motors. The Tesla Model 3 Long-range has a max range of 353 miles and the Standard Range Plus Model 3 has a max range of 263. These max ranges are based on a max speed of around 65 mph. I don’t know the exact numbers, but I would estimate that driving on the highway at 75 mph, takes about 15% to 20% off the max range of Tesla Model 3’s.
Mark Brand
Acum 21 oră
He’s talking about the SR+
Allen Edgar
Acum o Zi
No mention of sourcing the Electricity How much power would be needed once the electric car become the majority vehicle on the road.
Mark Brand
Acum 20 ore
That’s the easy part. Nuclear.
Mark Bardsley
Acum o Zi
Texas storms
William Mason
Acum o Zi
Please read, trust me and research yourself, you’re being conned. This is just a complete fake news on best & viable alternatives to conventional diesel & petrol. Hydrogen powered battery cars with Proton Exchange Membrane cells or equivalent are the way forward with H2 for start you can have the same refuelling times (when existing garages are set-up) using existing infrastructure. The H2 range is more or equivalent to diesel / petrol. Certainly a damn site more than electrical charged battery cells which have a place but not as a viable alternative. Fast charging times are 20mins at best & just think of the millions of extra batteries to dispose of when a Hydrogen powered PEM will last for many years. This is all just Sales & marketing distortions to make you think it is best. How do you think most of the electricity is generated? Plus your reliance the the grid. What if you have a power cut? You go nowhere unless you have your own backup power. Irony abounds! In UK about 40% max is renewables (hydro, solar, wind- when light & when wind blowing) the rest is the normal power stations -gas, nuclear, coal fired. In view of so many coal fired stations being shutdown there are hundreds of sites now with gas and diesel generators being used to stabilise the grid. So just bigger engines with equivalent emissions constraints as we have with new cars. It’s a nonsense just because at point if use it cashes in on the out of sight out if mind mentality.
William Mason
Acum 12 ore
@Mark Brand I accept & agree that there is a limited place for charging battery systems but not as it’s being spun. With laughable marketing propaganda & contextual snapshots. It will only sell well due to trusting people being misinformed /lead by the nose with the perceived no emissions at point of use (out of sight out of mind mentality which we all are prone to). H2 wins on every level and contextual consideration environmentally & economically with continued power generation within the car itself
Mark Brand
Acum 12 ore
@William Mason well the mirai is available in California well just have to see how it sells
William Mason
Acum 15 ore
@Mark Brand Theres no tipping point H2 would wipe the floor against battery powered rechargeable cars with significantly superior benefits on many levels even if batteries are able to improve by 20-30%. Rechargeable batteries have a place but there is still major reliance, more interdependency & environmental impact when compared to refuelling at a gas station with H2. It’s a nonsense but fully understand companies wanting to push their product & marketing narrative and suppress others even though it’s a technically inferior application - nothing like being lead up the garden path
Mark Brand
Acum 20 ore
Several companies are pursuing h2 and it will have the chance to compete
valkry007
Acum o Zi
when it goes 300 miles on a charge and is 100% reliable in minus 40 degrees call me.
Solaroid444
Acum 3 ore
@Mark Brand EVs are trash in cold weather.
Mark Brand
Acum 20 ore
So... today?
Bruce Baum
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At this point there are no practical SUV’s or EV non commercial/PU to buy although coming soon in the next year but the prices of the Tesla X model is over $120,000 and the Rivian PU is at least $70,000 there are just cars which aren’t affordable for most people. Now if the govy would give me $40,000 of tax free money to buy a EV I’ll be in, thanks Simple Joe you’ll get my future vote if you make everything semi-free, but remember I’m an old white guy just like you.
Snake Eyes
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The solution is not faster charging. As the battery packs get cheaper, having locations with already charged batteries an having battery changing machines to swap out your empty battery for a freshly charged one will solve these problems. Most warehouses already use this technology for their forklift equipment, changing batteries using high powered magnets with rollers on a forklift to change an empty battery for one already charged. So it is an already proven an used tech for many decades already. Anyone on long trips could 'rent' a battery from a charging station. You can change batteries as fast as filling up a gas tank.
Mark Brand
Acum 20 ore
Having battery swappers makes no difference in the amount of charging you gave to do. All those packs have to be charged
Corrie May
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This video basically explains why I’m pro nuclear. I studied geology at UoA, and basically our level of environmental destruction needs to be reformed and not outsourced to child slaves in Africa. If you use advanced batteries for energy store that’s exactly how we could develop this technology by storing excess energy from reactors. Develop advanced modern practically 1:1 fuel to waste reactors if you can afford them; fund and subsidise modular nuclear reactors (buried nuclear reactors that fit on flatbed trucks that cannot melt down as the latent heat of the earth cools the reactors in an energy scenario) for rural and poor areas. Research into cold fusion from thorium and tritium fusion reactors will effectively push humanity into a stage 1 civilisation, allowing us to power everything we need in space with minimal area for the reactors. This energy would also mean electric vehicles would be actually green, at least in terms of air pollution after the grid was nuclear. Unfortunately this position is hindered by old notions funded by the fossil fuel industry; they are the main opposition to nuclear exponentialism, as it is petroleum fuelled backup generators that supply regular, supplement power to green energy stations. People don’t like hearing this; so I encourage you to go and look into this yourselves. Nothing I say would convince you.
Mark Brand
Acum 20 ore
RE Africa: there are plenty of cobalt free batteries
Jiayi LI
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Curious enough, You didn't want to mention China, where there's 50% of world's EV chargers already installed, and the largest EV market in the world. Must be quite awkward for you to say "China does better than us". So you put EU as example... Yeah after all all China can do is break the world's recycling.
Bullets Are Flying
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36k for a eletric car 😂🤦🏾♂️
F A
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Good video on infrastructure points but completely misses an elephant in the room: a replaceable battery! If I buy an EV I want to pull up to an electricity station and just replace an empty battery for a fully charged one, in 5 minutes. That's it. Why can't all the EV producers just agree on a replaceable battery standard(s)? That would allow all the gas stations to convert/run in parallel the replacement service. And they will be charging empty ones too.
Mark Brand
Acum 20 ore
Tesla actually implemented this but the station received little use because charging was pretty quick. Think about it, most of the times you fill up fuel you don’t actually need a full tank at that moment. You just need enough to get home.
Ken in IL
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Easy way to propagate charging stations is to make them profitable. If they charge $200 for a half charge ($1/mi), you will see them on every corner and parking lot.
Ken in IL
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How about a similar vid on the use of natural gas cars.
Paul Petersen
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Begs the question: how do you charge an EV on a hot summer day when there are brownouts or rolling blackouts, due to high electric usage? The answer is very slowly, or not at all until the grid is upgraded. I'm not holding my breath.
Solaroid444
Acum 3 ore
You can thank solar and wind power for the rolling blackouts.